Comment on the Track the Films You Watch Thread

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  1. ImmortalSlasher

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    I'm always up for a snow horror movie and I've been to the filming area before so I'll check out Ghostkeeper. Thanks.
     
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    Ouija Origin of Evil -

    I recall thinking the original Ouija was ok. Kind of basic. It could have been better. But I didn't need to see a prequel or sequel. But here is a prequel movie. Technically this is a better movie than the original. There are a few good creepy scares and the acting is fine. Also like some movies that show a different time period in America, the production design is well done. Yet still at the end of the movie, I found myself thinking, did I really need to see the origin of the story in the original? And the answer is still no.
     
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    Gave Kiss the Girls (1997) a re-watch since I last saw it when it originally released.

    Morgan Freeman stars as Alex Cross, an even-tempered, well-known badass with the ability to solve even the craziest crimes, especially when it involves matching the exact same signatures on two pieces of paper. As he attempts to locate his kidnapped niece, he pairs up with Ashley Judd, who plays a nurse who is good at kick-boxing, surviving long falls into water, and giving massages. She's not so great at following basic instructions and keeping her door locked. Together, they are an unbeatable, crime-solving team! Also, they are joined by Cary Elwes. He is a cop with a Southern accent. That's all we know for 90 minutes.
    Until it's revealed that he is the killer! Holy shit, what a setup with a big payoff! Masterful, even. It turns out Cary Elwes is Casanova, a man who can speak with TWO accents and who lives in a fucking cave that is invisible to all police detection and maps, except for the map that Red's niece's boyfriend has somehow? Still not sure on that but whatever, because Cary Elwes is the killer, and I bet you didn't know that, aside from the fact that he is third-billed and serves absolutely no other plot point in this movie. Like, at all. They didn't even try to incorporate him beyond, "Here's Cary Elwes. He's a cop. He speaks in a Southern accent. Remember Cary Elwes' character? Here he is again. Same Southern accent, yep. Hey, ah, remember Cary Elwes' character? Yep here he is agai--he's the fucking KILLER! HA HA! You are surprised now." Also, is no one on the police force friends with his character? No one asks about his personal life or ever does a background check?

    There is one great moment, though, and that's when Red is standing by the side of the road, using his powers of breathing and paying attention to cars driving by to detect where the killer may be in the woods on the other side of the road. He almost gets shot while meditating. Check your yoga, bro.

    Good question: when Red is able to prevent himself from blowing up by using carton of milk, why the hell is there a carton of milk just left out to spoil? Ashley Judd, pull your kitchen together, maybe right after you lock the goddamn door.
     
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    I can't even remember that movie but I think I saw it and some of a sequel. But I know I read the book. Actually a few of the books with the lead detective. The Kiss the Girls book is far better and darker. I think I was disappointed with the casting as well since I believe in the book Alex Cross describes himself to look more like Denzel Washington.
     
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    The Beast Within

    I'm a little bit of a bad reviewer here because I read the book and if you've read the book you know what a disjointed, incomplete story made it to the screen. The film itself has a few moments: the attack on the woman to start the film, a few bits of gore... but the rest of the film is an underexplained mess. It was tough to sit through it this latest go-round.
     
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    The Pact -

    I thought this was supposed to be a horror movie. It was profitable going by the wiki. The short film is supposed to be good too. I'm not going to try and find that though. And I remember the poster and some comments that the movie was ok. The cast had some names I've seen in movies and TV shows. But this is one of those broken or lost family type horror movies with a supernatural twist. It reminded me of another horror movie I watched fairly recently about a girl with a mystery in her house. The Pact's lead actress is talented and you want her to solve the mystery but it becomes almost unbelievable when, and I'll spoil tag just in case,

    she goes to a psychic and not just any psychic but one from her childhood. It's like can it be anymore convenient? But it's crazy. Right down to the psychic recommending using a Ouija board.

    I guess since it was profitable they thought why not make a sequel. Which this movie really doesn't warrant from the story. I read the wiki on the sequel and I won't be watching that. I guess if you want to see Caity Lotz on a motorcycle you can check this out. But she's on a motorcycle a bunch of times in those superhero TV shows too.


    Eden Lake -

    I didn't like this one at all. I thought it was a terrible movie and on the same level as The Walking Dead in that it will make you believe if you leave the city you need to be armed. And since this takes place in the UK, weapons are out of the question.

    This felt like someone saw The Descent and basically made a more realistic version of that movie. Eden Lake sounds like The Descent. And when I checked the wiki, I found out that the same guy did the music. The lead actress even kind of resembles from Shauna MacDonald in The Descent. And becomes just as dirty and grimy during the movie. But that is where the similarities end.

    Spoilers.

    At one point, I thought maybe they are going to keep up The Descent plotline and have the main character turn into this bad ass when you see her look into a mirror which says something like a human is the most dangerous animal in the forest. But then they keep referencing stuff from the beginning of the movie. You know when she runs into the truck that it will be a relative of the killers. And the party will be the low class people they met earlier.

    And the people who made this movie, just like that movie with the Australian guy in the Outback, think the bad guy is the hero and we end the movie with a shot of the killer.

    People like that shouldn't be shown in that way. It's bad enough for some societies to have a criminal class. But the villains in this movie all deserve a quick route to the death penalty.

    Overall, I just don't like movies like this because I feel they do damage to society. And eventually might lead to the Predator 2 train situation where everyone feels the need to be armed.
     
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    Natas Is it October yet?

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    Tusk

    Watched this on blu ray after seeing once streaming a year or two ago. I really enjoy this movie. I find it very amusing and entertaining. The only complaint would be the first scene with Deep. Man that scene drags. Brings everything to a screeching halt........but at the end of the day I really enjoy this one. Justin Long can do no wrong in my opinion.....love him.
     
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    Autopsy of Jane Doe -

    Posted a small review in the topic:

    http://horrordvds.com/community/threads/the-autopsy-of-jane-doe-2016.47932/page-2#post-845560

    It's really good and surprised me.


    Don't Knock Twice -

    I thought this was going to be good. I think I saw a trailer or just a poster some time ago. Perhaps I thought since Katee Sackhoff is in it, it would be good. But she's 0 for 2 for me with horror movies now. Maybe 0 for 3 with that Halloween movie but I haven't seen that yet. Don't Knock Twice starts off ok too. But then goes to some crazy places. And without spoiling it, the movie is a tease. It is like it knows it's a bad movie so it plays with obvious misdirection in the hopes that you will forget. A better movie wouldn't do something like that. It wouldn't continually show something to try to make you forget something else so that when the reveal happens at the end it's a surprise and shock. In Don't Knock Twice, I didn't care that much because of that poor attempt at misdirection and the stupid ending. It's a shame too because the setup and a few of the locations are good horror settings. And about 1/4 to close to halfway in, I was thinking this is going to be a movie I'll own. But nope.


    Get Out -

    Posted a long review with thoughts in the topic.

    http://horrordvds.com/community/thr...le-discussion-thread.47987/page-3#post-845563

    It's ok. Not as good as I thought it was going to be going from the hype.


    Suspiria -

    The first Dario Argento movie I've seen and man it's wild. I didn't expect this. I just kept hearing that Suspiria was good. And I saw the image of the main character in a taxi and thought that's a beautiful image. I guess I assumed because it's old it wouldn't be like this. And after that first death, you know everything else will be shocking. I didn't expect that from this movie. That first scene was completely surprising and it set the stage and mood for everything else keeping me wondering what other horrors were in store. The music is really unnerving. You know evil is coming and with it blaring it puts you on edge. What the witches do is always extreme and mean spirited in its evil and was beyond my expectations. What I assume a real witch would do. At the end I was saying get her! I think how normal everything seems makes it worse when the attacks finally happen. Afterwards I watched the trailer and that gave me chills.



    I liked the movie so much that I have a poster on the way which I started a topic about.

    http://horrordvds.com/community/threads/suspiria-limited-poster-by-dan-mumford.48418/

    I can't wait to see more Dario Argento movies and the rest of the Three Mothers trilogy.
     
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    Weird coincidence:

    After Thanksgiving, we gave Crocodile Dundee (1986) a viewing, since we were all brain-dead and my gf had never seen it. It was not good, and so we decided to up the class a bit and watch the recent Criterion Collection blu-ray of The Fisher King (1991), which none of us had seen. Partway through the film, Jeff Bridges' character flips through a newspaper and stops at the cinema listings. The camera holds for a long beat and there, smack in the middle of the shot on the right of the newspaper listings, is a big ad for Crocodile Dundee! We had a good laugh and then went back to trying to convince ourselves to finish The Fisher King, which tried very hard to be a Very Important Movie.
     
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    Natas Is it October yet?

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    I love when shit like that happens.
     
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    A month or so ago I had had Wilson Pickett's Midnight Hour stuck in my head all day. That night I read something about B.B. King and was inspired to check out a Youtube video of him and U2 performing When Love Comes to Town, a song I probably hadn't heard in 15 years. It was pretty surreal when, during the middle of the performance, they threw in the chorus of Midnight Hour.
     
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    Watched Better Watch Out (2017) last night. I'd heard some good buzz and I enjoyed it, really a nice surprise. It's currently on Shudder, not sure where else. Definitely recommended.

    Do yourself a favor, though, and don't watch the trailer beforehand, it gives too much away. I waited till after I watched the movie before checking out the trailer, glad I did.
     
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    Dead Body 2017

    There's a lot of direct to video crap out there. Decided to take a flyer on this and holy crap, it's actually pretty good. It sort of plays out like a Agatha Cristie whodunnit with some mean kills splashed in. Currently on Amazon Prime, worth a look.
     
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    April
    04/10 - Blood Lake (1987)
    04/11 - Iced (1988)
    04/24 - Moonstalker (1989)

    It’s been a strange month.
     
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    I guess the horror film watching topic only moves in October. I watched Prince of Darkness for only the second time. I didn't like it that much the first time seeing it some years ago. I think I was a bit tired then as I didn't remember much about the movie. Or the ending.

    Anyone want to start this topic up again with discussion? Prince of Darkness is probably my least favorite in Carpenter's Apocalypse Trilogy. I would put They Live and Ghosts of Mars in that group over Prince of Darkness. But I have a better feel for the movie the second time around. I think it's the characters that are the weak part. And perhaps the sense of dread or urgency. Compared to The Thing, In the Mouth of Madness, They Live, and Ghosts of Mars. All those movies have characters that I latch on to and like.
     
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    I'm going to let you rethink this before you tarnish your good name.
     
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    Yeah I don't get the fan fair Prince of Darkness receives. As you say it has some pretty weak lead characters that haven't aged well. I'm not a SJW by any means but the "romantic" "relationship" made my skin crawl. They did a better job with stereotypical female scientist tropes in 50's sci-fi like It Came From Beneath the Sea I just saw. But I remember the plot itself making little to no sense so I looked up my original assessment:
    Basically an anti-matter being sent some plasma (its "son") 7,000 years ago but had to wait around until there were enough atheists in the world (presumably so lack of spirituality would retard our own psychic growth), possess a specially marked package, so it could find a full figure mirror (apparently the technological advancement it was also waiting for) and pull said anti-matter being ("Father") into our world? It's such a round about plot. For what gain? And de-escalates from "THIS IS THE DEVIL INCARNATE" to "Well actually it's just his less talented kid, but he'll bring the REAL deal just you wait and see!" And Jesus shows up 2k years too early, snuffs it, and so the other aliens say "Oh well, there goes the Universe" and pack up their bags? Especially when all they had to do was push the thing back into the mirror; if only to kick the can further down the road? It reads like a first draft to me. Also isn't it odd that the future could capture on tape thee moment the anti-christ first walks out?
    Yeah that's a screwy plot. It seems like Carpenter read a couple of articles about the dead sea scrolls and quantum physics, maybe even in the same Readers Digest, and wrote this all over a weekend.

    Into the Mouth of Madness didn't really work for me either but I have a hard time articulating why. The characters are alright and the plot mostly fine. It just doesn't feel like the mind fuck it purports to be. And it has more of a feel of a made-for-TV Stephen King adaptation than a theatrical film. While I suspect the lampooning of King to be somewhat intentional it doesn't really do the final production any favors.

    I've been liking Carpenter less and less as the years go by unfortunately. I have been thinking about giving Ghosts of Mars a turn though as I originally gave it a hard pass but there's been some positive statements now and again that have me intrigued.
     
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    It took me a while to understand and really like Ghosts of Mars. Here are my reviews from the other horror forum.

    From 2014:

    "I watched this movie years ago but after seeing The Ward I wanted to see it again. Perhaps it would come off better. But it still doesn't. Something is off about the movie. I can't name it exactly. It has similar themes to other Carpenter movies. The cast is good. You have Jackie Brown, The Transporter, one of the girls from The Faculty, and of course Natasha Henstridge. She looks hot in this movie and it's a better movie for her than those Species movies. But the movie might be played too serious.

    There are movies like Doomsday and Planet Terror which were inspired by Carpenter movies that are more fun than this movie. Perhaps it's the number of flashbacks. The movie has to get the award for the most flashback scenes I've ever seen. I could see how they might be seen as clever. But at times some make the movie feel slow. And a few probably could have been cut. Or handled better. At the end there is no true resolution to the problem. Or the characters aren't smart enough to realize what saved Natasha's character. So you still have the potential of people getting easily infected. Then when you have them gearing up for another battle that should be fun and exciting. A sequel to look forward to. As it will be the battle to save the city. Or end of the world scenario like many other Carpenter movies like The Thing, They Live, etc. But it doesn't come off as fun or exciting."

    From 2016:

    Ghost of Mars - Now I Get it Review!

    "I've been watching / listening to this movie on demand and now I finally get it.

    Now I realize what this movie is and how it works. It's like a Night of the Living Dead type with a sci-fi comic book movie twist. If I saw this movie back when I saw Night of the Living Dead 1990, I would probably like it even more. Back when I originally watched Ghost of Mars, I don't think I realized how cool the actress that played Jackie Brown is. She was in a bunch of old action movies. So her as the leader of this group of space cops is supposed to be another cool role for her. Jason Statham is the wise cracking cop like the Hudson character in Aliens. Of course this is before The Transporter but here you can see how cool the guy will be. And Natasha Henstridge is almost like the MacReady character from The Thing. She doesn't want to be bothered but takes up the lead when trouble hits. I think most know Natasha Henstridge from Species. I never liked those movies that much. I thought the Species Alien design was a rip off of Alien. I didn't know that they were by the same designer. But this is probably the best movie I've seen Natasha Henstridge in. Ice Cube is the bad ass prisoner, like Snake Plissken in from Escape from New York. Once things go crazy, they need him to get out of there.

    I still don't think Ghosts of Mars is as fun as Doomsday. But Doomsday took so much from Carpenter and other movies of that time. Ghosts of Mars is just a few twists on the formula. At the end, I think we are supposed to want to see a continuation in comic book or other format. Like how Ice Cube's Desolation Williams character (I love that name) smiles at the screen. This is supposed to be a fun time at the movies. And unlike zombies getting inside a house, which is scary, this is supposed to be both fun and scary. A good movie to watch in the middle of the night."

    I watched / listened to Prince of Darkness a few more times. I didn't like Ghosts of Mars the first time either. But I like it a lot now. See those reviews above. And I wanted to really see if I could make the stretch and add Prince of Darkness to my collection. I'm still not feeling Prince of Darkness. It does feel like a TV movie at times. But I love the Carpenter intro with the music. I think I'll add it to my Carpenter Collection though because the ideas are so out there and some of the wild possession scenes.

    What's wrong with the relationship with the two main characters? I'm not on Facebook or Twitter so I don't know what's going on when people talk about the social justice warrior thing about relationships like in this movie. Nothing seemed wrong with it to me. The blonde guy rocking the 80s mustache wanting the pretty girl he sees around campus.

    I would do that sort of thing in school as well without his luck unfortunately. See the pretty girl. Hope that we are in the same class eventually. As I didn't want to have to come up with a bad line or attempt some kind of pick up thing. And also hope that they are a good person. Sadly about 90% of the time for me they weren't. This sort of thing happened to me on occasion as well with girls remembering me from somewhere. I never had the quick relationship like in Prince of Darkness though. One scene they are going for coffee and the next they are in bed. But we don't see that coffee scene or the dinner date previously. I was probably close to something like that but when someone shows you that they might be the "w" word, it's best not to risk anything. I believe It Came From Beneath the Sea is on my list to watch. Perhaps I'll push that up the list.

    I still don't really get the ending scene and video in Prince of Darkness. I've been reading more into it on the Internet. And I have a few podcasts to listen to. I do like that final shot.

    In the Mouth of Madness is cool for me because I really like horror movies that take place in small towns. The Carpenter movie you should avoid if you haven't seen it is The Ward. Carpenter should make one more to not end directing on that note. Here is my review of that one from the other forum:

    The Ward -

    "I was excited about finally getting to see this movie. And after seeing it I was disappointed and ready to give it a bad review as the movie feels at times like one of those cheap late night movies or a free Fear.net title. I know many directors have duds but if this didn't say John Carpenter's The Ward at the opening titles you would have a hard time convincing people that this is a movie from the guy that made The Thing and Halloween. But I watched a few bits again and realized something. This might not be a horror movie for me. It's a horror movie for girls or women that usually don't like horror movies. And if you go by this premise, the movie isn't that bad. However, my review coming from me as a guy is a disappointment. You have John Carpenter directing with Amber Heard, Danielle Panabaker, and Lyndsy Fonseca in it. I seriously thought this would be a movie I would own.

    From the beginning the setup is obvious. Just like Cabin in the Woods, the opening tells you the twist if you pick up on it. The only question is how good will the ride be? I've seen many movies with similar setups that do a better job with the theme and twist. And that twist should have been handled better. A big tell with these movies is how the other characters interact with the main character. But The Ward plays it straight then drops the twist which would be a surprise if you ignored the opening credits and perhaps a few other scenes in the movie. But for the most part, the way it's played the average viewer won't be able to tell. I even started to think that maybe they weren't going to go through with it. Even though they did eventually.

    This sort of movie really depends on the character you gravitate to, which for me was Amber Heard's character. It's a shame how the movie resolves her situation. And her situation is bad as only the person in the oldest profession wouldn't be damaged by it. Yet it's a disappointment to see how it's resolved. But like I opened with, all this is ok because many of those other movies can be seen as guy movies and maybe this is the first one for women.

    PS - I didn't like the final ending scare. It's used in lesser movies and didn't make sense for the character that did it. It's surprising that Carpenter even used it considering his horror background. To see it used well see Sinister, which is great."
     
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    It's been a few years so I can't give specific examples of their relationship but my impression is that he was of the old school "women should be at home" and she was of the new school "women can do anything a man can do." And it's fine, there's a lot of 80's even 90's movies that handle these situation in a way that modern eyes find off. That was life in that era. Yet in Price of Darkness they seem way off even for the time. Combine that with what else happens to her and it really leaves a bad taste in your mouth.

    Writing a natural relationship developing (which is how is starts) just doesn't seem to be Carpenter's forte. Come to think of it I don't think there's another example of it in his filmography; at least in anything of his that I've seen.

    I don't think much of anything was really working for Carpenter on that film besides the production design. As I recall his shot selection wasn't very dynamic through much of it either.
     

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