Get Out (2017, Meet-the-Parents Horror; dir. Jordan Peele) [Discussion Thread]

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  1. MorallySound

    MorallySound Mad Mutilator

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    Hahahah. Armond White is the worst/crankiest film critic around. The guy couldn't tell a good movie from his left shoe.
     
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    The blu-ray is $4.99 at Best Buy through Wednesday. Free shipping (no minimum) on their website.
     
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    Myron Breck BOO!!! Gotcha!

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    Just now seeing this! It's finally been price-matched by Amazon...trying to cancel my unshipped order right now to take advantage.
     
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    Natas Is it October yet?

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    Sold out real quick. Online anyways......I'm gonna pop into my local store today to see if they have any copies left at that price.
     
  5. ImmortalSlasher

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    A long review with some thoughts. I wanted to watch a few favorite online reviewers and give the movie a second shot to see if I missed anything before I posted a review myself. Many times with really good movies you see things you missed on the first viewing. Small things in the performances, the flow of the story, setting details, and just things that could make you enjoy the movie more. I mentioned in my past post that Get Out didn't surprise me because I heard something about the twist in another movie. That movie was

    Ghost in the Shell. People were talking about how they took a Japanese anime character and gave her to a white actress. And even came up with reasons why it didn't matter. Some reviewers were saying Ghost in the Shell was the reverse of Get Out. So going into Get Out, I was thinking what would be the reverse with black and white characters? And from the opening of Get Out, I knew it was going to be a white person taking a black person's body. I guess that is the revelant topic, which is that Hollywood or the world doesn't really care when a white person takes a minority role or anything else.

    After the opening I was waiting for how it would play out. If the trip the movie went on would still be worthwhile. I said it about Split recently but these movies with twists have to be good without the twist. That journey towards the twist has to be entertaining. The Burbs plays with the twist. Are the neighbors really murderers? It makes you question it and you aren't sure till the end reveal. Scream has the twist that there are two killers. Although I think in part 2 or maybe 3, I can't remember as I don't like either of those, one of the survivors says only one guy actually killed people. I like the twist in Scream 4. Sinister has a good twist. I think that's one of the best recent horror movies. I've watched Halloween 3 tons of times. That has a tons of good twists with the robots, how the masks work, turning Ellie into a robot, and the final twist. I saw that when I was a kid and it freaked me out. I still watch it to this day.

    Overall my thought on my first viewing of Get Out was that it was a lite version of Invasion of the Body Snatchers and I still think so after the second viewing. That the scope didn't appear large enough and that it isn't a really consistent dark horror movie. At times it's a different movie or almost comedy skit with the TSA friend. I didn't like that scene at the police station even though I got it. But all the cops were minorities and they didn't care, which leads me to something I'll mention later on, but still I thought that was strange. Yet it was the whole topic of people don't care about the missing minority. Still a movie like The Burbs is consistent in it's horror comedy theme jumping back and forth almost immediately till the end reveal.

    I felt like the Get Out didn't go deep enough with the message though. Some here mentioned Night of the Living Dead with its ending. I saw a review or special on TV which also remarked that Night of the Living Dead has the black guy as the hero. And that he also slaps the hysterical white woman. Two things which would have been considered big deals back then. I like the line when Ben tells Harry that he can be the boss of the basement.

    I think the director of Get Out said the movie is about Slavery. I guess that's true to an extent. Slavery is a horrible thing which still goes on today in the world and instead of being properly addressed in the United States was made worse over time by many events. But it's an odd thing in the movie. It's comes off like black people can't be maids or servants of white people anymore. Yet you have black people that are servers in restaurants and are bodyguards for weathly people and moviestars. It's not like there is a law or some unwritten rule that it shouldn't happen. And of course the relationship between the two main characters is front and center.

    There were things I caught on the first viewing that I thought should have been explained which on that second viewing were because I missed it or just zoned out on some dialog. As when I watched the first time the mind transfer technique came off as still experimental with the grandparents behavior. Like they are still new to the body swapping. And the parents needed to put them into a default mode around people. Also that the odd behavior at times is just for the sake of the audience. It wasn't the behavior of the original host or grandparents. Like when the grandmother is just standing behind the kitchen door waiting it seems to serve dessert. I don't think she could behave in a more odd way to provoke suspicion. But there is some dialog that says they just finalized the procedure so I guess it makes some sense. Still, I think the movie would have been better if the technique was further along since people are bidding on the boyfriend. And Rose seemed to have many people she enticed into the procedure.

    I read on the wiki that there are alternate endings. But the one I read about didn't seem to go far enough. The real ending to get to the heart of the matter would have ended with the boyfriend getting shot. Maybe having one of the cops be a minority that was body swapped. I think the boyfriend was kind of suspect that's why he asked his TSA friend at the end, how did you find me? I read on the wiki that the director changed the alternate ending with the boyfriend getting arrested because of current events with black people getting shot by police. But if a minority cop did it, I think that would have been a scary twist since it is rarely if ever in the news about a minority cop killing a white person. It's always the opposite. That would be a scary twist and give reason for the behavior of minority cops.

    I thought Rose was most interesting character as the girlfriend. She's believable right up to the silly clue that the boyfriend happens to stumble across. I thought the grandmother put it there at first for him to see but on second viewing I really don't know as that was a bad part with the clue in the open. But this is the first movie I've seen Allison Williams in. If there is a sequel they should have found a way for her to survive. She is really evil in this movie and plays it so well and then becomes a different character when she puts her hair in a ponytail. I thought the scene with her reseaching her next target was funny. I've met many girls that go after the athletes before.

    The other actors are good too. I heard a review mention that the boyfriend is in the Black Mirror TV show. That's a show I still haven't got around to seeing but I heard it's really good. He gives a good performance here as well. At first I thought he was a bit too violent at the end. But then I caught more of the dialog about how the mind transfer technique works and that you are essentially a passenger, enslaved in your own body. Then I thought it's understandable. Also I remembered Bradley Whitford from Cabin in the Woods. So I pretty much assumed bad guy because of his casting.

    Some of you are bringing up political correctness in regards to the success of Get Out. I think these days we need to be careful using that term incorrectly or using it at all to hide true feelings. Not to turn this into that political topic that we have on this forum. But we've seen someone in the United States use that same term and then openly consider racists or racist behavior ok. No one who is a decent person would walk or socialize with a racist. Many people in this country have died as civilians and as members of our armed forces fighting racists. Also someone mentioned how it would be bad or something if the roles were switched and I remembered this funny skit with Eddie Murphy.



    There are social topics and double standards that aren't discussed that often. I remember another Eddie Murphy scene in Beverly Hills Cop.



    Something like scene in the beginning with the two detectives is why I liked the scene where the swapped guy from the opening in Get Out didn't know the fist bump and still tried to shake hands. I thought that was funny. That would go towards the twist that I would do with the minority cop at the end. I always joke to some people that Tiger Woods and others seem like they might fall for the banana in the tailpipe. I guess I'm too old and they don't get it.



    But there could have been a really deep discussion from Get Out. The director is the product of a mixed marriage and is married to a white woman. I remember reading that some black people thought President Obama wasn't black enough, another mixed marriage product and that if he wasn't married to a black woman he wouldn't have won the Presidency.

    There is some really bad stuff in American history that isn't talked about. And currently we don't have the people in leadership roles to talk about it. Bill Clinton tried to say something about it and I think people thought he was joking or not serious. I saw an article recently where this author said she's like 9% African.

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    I'm sure no one would be able to tell.

    Many of the Founders of this country knew what was going on. A college teacher started some controversy a few years back and brought up race saying you should ask a white person for their background. And I'm sure that's what modern racists mean about when they talk about people taking their women and how they won't be replaced in jobs and other ways. Racism today isn't as clear as the days of Coffy when a white person simply wanted to hang or drag a black person behind a car. I only saw Coffy fairly recently. I didn't know how much it influenced Tarantino's Jackie Brown.



    But anyway, I guess I just thought there would be more to Get Out. That the whole town or city would be involved. That there would be more behind the movie like those classic horror movies. That it would leave you with that unsettling feeling. It is a dark theme that a white family that doesn't come off as racist is kidnapping and enslaving people in their own body. And that the girlfriend would provide that level of trust and love to lure a person into the trap. But only recently I saw the original Invasion of the Body Snatchers and that's a really good movie. It's on my list to own. This is probably the last time I'll watch Get Out. I watched it the second time over two days so I wasn't really into it. I guess it's just that journey that I mentioned. I assume the director is making a Twilight Zone reboot because people liked the twist in Get Out and that scene with the boyfriend floating in the stars. But those good Twilight Zone episodes leave you in shock and freaked out thinking about how scary or twisted parts of the world are. I get shivers just remembering my favorite Twilight Zone episodes. At the end of Get Out, I just didn't feel that the scope of what was going on was a big enough threat. And after all at the end, all the family members are dead and it doesn't seem like anyone is continuing what they were doing.
     
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    I just saw this special with the director. It's worth a watch for the small things people might have missed. Or theories that people are thinking about.

     
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    Just saw this last night and loved it. GUESS WHO'S COMING TO DINNER meets THE STEPFORD WIVES totally worked for me. Had the race card not been played, this movie would have just been another forgettable movie about crazy people passing for sane. People who say it isn't scary obviously can't put themselves in a black person's position. The scene with the cop asking for his license made my skin crawl.
     
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    I think technically cops can ask everyone in the car for a license if they suspect something. The thing that is more scary is Rose's performance knowing the outcome of the movie. That's what the director pointed out. That cop scene in particular isn't her standing up for her boyfriend like you would assume on first viewing. But something far more sinister. And her knowledge of police behavior is shown at the end scene.
     
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    I thought the main theme of the movie was cultural appropriation of black culture by white people and all the issues that brings. That is why this movie was so praised by those outside the horror community and even has Oscar buzz. I have seriously heard people saying it will be nominated for Best Oscar.
     

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